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. this was nothing compared to what happened yesterday in libya at the consulate in the city of benghazi. we are now learning that there was a five-hour gun battle as the consulate there was under attack by a militant group that used military-style tactics, used mortars and used rpgs and ultimately killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. richard engel, nbc news, cairo. >> many thanks to nbc's richard engel reporting in cairo. >>> let's get right to our distinguished panel, indiana republican senator dan coates and peter brooks who worked in the bush administration and larry core who worked in the reagan administration. you know, senator coates, the president of egypt has still not apologized, best i understand, president obama who was trying to always carry favor with the middle east and wants to forgive $1 billion of debt to egypt, a country that hasn't even apologized for what's gone on, and i will tell you, sir, i'd like to hear what you have to say, watching president obama twice bungle this from the state department. if it weren't for hillary and if it weren't for -- if it weren't
in a plot. lured to benghazi, assassinated in that safe house and lured by the organization working with the united states to overturn gadhafi and police libya these last years but opened relationships with al qaeda and the darkest elements of the jihadists. there's suggestion ambassador stevens was murdered in revenge for the death of a libyan hero to the al qaeda forces al-libbi killed by a drone strike june 4th. >> john, what you're saying is round up the usual suspect, you're saying they have not really caught the perpetrators who killed ambassador stevens? >> the perpetrators are al qaeda and the jihadists of the uma. it's a vast organization. >> thank you for that. let me go to paul wulff wits, former deputy secretary of defense. thank you for coming back on the program. what's your take on this? president obama said no act of terror will go unpunished. he said we're going to bring them all to justice. what happens now? how do we bring them all to justice? >> clearly, we're talking about libya, it will happen with the cooperation of the libyans. one of the important things to
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